The Top 10 Sales Closes of All-time

If you were to put together a list of the top 10 sales closes of all time which sales closes would you include? -Community Mailbox
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I've absolutely no idea what you're talking about. How about giving an example of one of them? -rattus58
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Here are fifteen oldies but goodies. Choose any ten you like:
  • Minor-point method
  • Order-form method
  • Name-spelling method
  • Pro and con method
  • Reversed-position method
  • Transfer method
  • Last-chance method
  • Focusing-attention method
  • Implied-ownership method
  • Referral-to-authority method
  • Assuming-a-close method
  • Doubt-elimination method
  • Free-trial method
  • Objection method
  • Showdown method
-Johnny Fairplay
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It's amazing I've lasted this long. -rattus58
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Silent close
last ditch close
assumtive
either or
presentation paper close
puppy dog close
yes close
ask for it close
door knowb close
not a fan of the ben franklin close
sandwich close
combining the different closing techniques becomes an effective way to ask for the sale -rich34232
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I've complained about this before, and if this is to be a closed club, that's fine too, but I asked for an example of one of these closes and wind up seeing a dozen more that are really meaningless to me.

So, from the standpoint of helpfulness, for me... this is a top ten waste of time. -rattus58
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I've complained about this before, and if this is to be a closed club, that's fine too, but I asked for an example of one of these closes and wind up seeing a dozen more that are really meaningless to me.

So, from the standpoint of helpfulness, for me... this is a top ten waste of time.
Tom, I'll probably get hate mail for this but I'm too old to care. I've been selling now into my fifth decade. I have the highest closing ratio of anybody I have ever known OR KNOWN OF. Although I am educated enough in sales lore to provide a description or example of every "sales close" on this thread, I DO NOT take them seriously. Although I know some top producers who use a few of them at a deeply advanced and understood level, I have not seen much in the way of understanding of those closes on this forum. Bulleted lists don't put a dime in my pocket. -Ace Coldiron
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I'm having trouble visualizing you getting hate mail sn; .

I envy anyone who can retain a lot of the theory of sales. I have problems going from day to day... that's why i have to write stuff down and review it everyday... although I do know the Ben Franklin close.... ;bg

Much Aloha,

Tom shds; ;bg -rattus58
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I've complained about this before, and if this is to be a closed club, that's fine too, but I asked for an example of one of these closes and wind up seeing a dozen more that are really meaningless to me.
Here is an example of one of those closes. "Pro-and-con Method: Many salespeople summarize their presentation and start their decision-making activities by writing out a list of the reasons for or against the proposition. For example, in one column they might include all of the prospect's reasons for wanting a later delivery. In another column they might itemize all of the reasons why the prospect will benefit from an immediate delivery. The salesperson then asks the prospect to compare the two, in order to help her make the right decision. Then he asks for the order. This is sometimes called the close-by-contrast method." -Johnny Fairplay
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Here is an example of one of those closes. "Pro-and-con Method: Many salespeople summarize their presentation and start their decision-making activities by writing out a list of the reasons for or against the proposition. For example, in one column they might include all of the prospect's reasons for wanting a later delivery. In another column they might itemize all of the reasons why the prospect will benefit from an immediate delivery. The salesperson then asks the prospect to compare the two, in order to help her make the right decision. Then he asks for the order. This is sometimes called the close-by-contrast method."
Hi Johnny Fairplay... :)

Thank you... I know that as the Ben Franklin Close, you have identified it as Close by Contrast and Pro and Con.... sn;

This is why I like people to illustrate what they discuss here, or right off say that this is for everyone else but the Rat... who wouldn't understand.... :cu

Thanks for the illustration....

Much Aloha... Tom shds; -rattus58
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That is not an example of the Ben Franklin Close. In the Ben Franklin Close as it is popularly taught, the salesperson assists with the column that has "reasons for" and then offers almost no assistance in creating the "reasons against" column. It's tantamount to stacking the deck, in that the "reasons for" column gets filled.

GMAC taught it as the A-B Comparison when they were offering training on leasing against buying. -Ace Coldiron
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I know I'll get an argument from one fellow on this forum whose sales mind I greatly admire, but I'll say this anyway.

Closing is not an event. The closest thing I have ever heard that describes what it really is was stated as "a series of incremental decisions leading to consumation of a sale". Sometimes the word "minor" is included as an adjective for decisions.

Still--that is not quite right, so I'll state it here:

Closing in sales is a progression of consent. -Ace Coldiron
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I do not know what anyone knows or does not know. What is not known ,ask and it can become known.
What you will find when investigating many of these closes are the same with a different name given by others.The majority of sales gurus call it thier own name to make it their own close and identity.

The presentation paper close I mentioned above is a method that I designed for our b2c. It combines some of the different closes. This close definitely bypasses objections as it explains on paper to the client pricing ,benefits and value. This close also allows for an explanation given on the individual sales that make the whole sale. It is wonderful for gaining additional sales and presenting them to the client without chaos and confusion.
Soon it will be in a published book ,once published I will post it in the site.Using illustrations and how to use the close.

The other closes usually fit the name either or close is a close that give two options.monday or wednesday delivery, do you want that in chrome or brass.In your case do you want the twelve month or twenty-four month disability.

If each of us that have ten clsoes decided to give an explanatuoin of them our forum thread would be extremely long. -rich34232
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What you will find when investigating many of these closes are the same with a different name given by others.The majority of sales gurus call it thier own name to make it their own close and identity.
Who are you referring to? I'm fairly well informed in that area and I can think of only one "guru" who coined a term to describe a "close." It was Tom Hopkins with "alternate advance close" which years ago was referred to as the choice of the double positive.

I'm curious who else did that.

Your presentation paper close sounds similar to a process that was mandatory for a large direct selling organization that I once was a training manager in. We found it difficult to teach, but the top producers had mastered it. Of course that's the norm. -Ace Coldiron
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I stated the majority of sales gurus put thier own name to the close. If you look at Zig Ziglar,Brian Tracy and Tom Hopkins you will find many of the closings they describe are thee xact same with different names. I did not pick one out to prove a statement as being wrong. However I did not state that all closes were copied and a different title to the closings.

The example you gave you named two different names to that close which proves my point that different names are given to the exact same close. by different professionals.You have proven my point and I thank you for helping me prove my statement.

The closing I have designed is an easy close to learn and implement. It helps the sales person who fears the add on sale and is a great tool for all sales professional.The hardest part of this particular close is convincing the sales professional to change thirr process and adapt to this close.This is a normal problem with most sales professionals they do not like change and it takes time to convince them to change.However when I use this close to show them why change is great they can read,see and experience how this close really enhances thier chance of receiving the ownership exchange.They see it in the different ways that people learn.

What is great with all closes they are a combination of each other and normally work well with each other.Some work better than others with one another . Such as the silent close and just ask close they work well with all of the other closes. -rich34232
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Rich, I was questioning the accuracy of your statement:

"The majority of sales gurus call it thier [sic] own name to make it their own close and identity."

You were unable to provide an example . So I still question the accuracy. If somehow I proved your point in your mind, I guess that's a good thing. -Ace Coldiron
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"Tom Hopkins with "alternate advance close" which years ago was referred to as the choice of the double positive." Your own words.

This does not prove my point that sales gurus put thier own spin name to a close???If this does not prove the point I have no idea what you want from me. -rich34232
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It just seems to me, from reading the previous replies, that this has turned into the Top Ten Titles Of Closes, Not the Actual Closes Themselves.

It would be plenty useful, if each individual one was laid out in specific detail as each poster has learned them.

I know for sure, I would appreciate it. thmbp2;

Ed -Ed The Roofer
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The porch light close is by far my most successful close in the bag. -Mr. Mike
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My favorite closing action:

"Do you want to go ahead and get it?" (of course, can be adjusted for a myriad of sales situations).

Skip Anderson -Skip Anderson
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The assumption close: "So how are you wanting to pay for this?" then list the payment plans. -ttdub
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I've complained about this before, and if this is to be a closed club, that's fine too, but I asked for an example of one of these closes and wind up seeing a dozen more that are really meaningless to me.

So, from the standpoint of helpfulness, for me... this is a top ten waste of time.
This is scary! I'm agreeing with you! If we all knew what these closes were, I'd say super. As of right now, they are just words. -Cowman
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It just seems to me, from reading the previous replies, that this has turned into the Top Ten Titles Of Closes, Not the Actual Closes Themselves.

It would be plenty useful, if each individual one was laid out in specific detail as each poster has learned them.

I know for sure, I would appreciate it. thmbp2;

Ed
My thoughts exactly. -Cowman
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My thoughts exactly.
Cowman, what do you believe "closing" IS? It would be perhaps more useful to get your perspective as one who lists himself as a novice, as opposed to those who fall into the other two categories, i.e., Advanced or Practiced Novice.

If, for instance, you view closing as something that would be out of synch with the topic in general, that discovery might prove to be a defining moment in your career.

As an Advanced, with a very high conversion rate, I see little value in most of the aforementioned bulleted lists of "top" closes. Tell us your perspective. As a relative beginner you have an advantage. -Ace Coldiron
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The assumption close: "So how are you wanting to pay for this?" then list the payment plans.
Might be interesting to test that example with two popularly accepted platitudes of selling.

First, "closing", as an "event" if one believes it is, is almost always conceived as effective if we reduce a major decision to a minor one. Putting the decision of choice of "payment plan" on the prospect's shoulders as an "assumptive close" isn't necessarily a minor decision and could stall the proceedings.

Second--to ask the question "So how do you want to pay for this?" and continue talking by stating a list of options dilutes the question and really is no close at all--it's simply providing information which should have been done beforehand.

The key to using these closing techniques (if you are going to use them) is twofold. First--understand them--then do them right. -Ace Coldiron
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Cowman, what do you believe "closing" IS? It would be perhaps more useful to get your perspective as one who lists himself as a novice, as opposed to those who fall into the other two categories, i.e., Advanced or Practiced Novice.

If, for instance, you view closing as something that would be out of synch with the topic in general, that discovery might prove to be a defining moment in your career.

As an Advanced, with a very high conversion rate, I see little value in most of the aforementioned bulleted lists of "top" closes. Tell us your perspective. As a relative beginner you have an advantage.
Huh? Gee, I dunno!shds;

My limited experience in closing is that I don't have a certain way.

As for me, although the the assumptive close is what was taught, it's not my favorite. It's almost an insult to the customer because he/she knows beyond a doubt what is going on. I very much dislike it and feel very uncomfortable using it.

If I look in a book I like the Ben Franklin close best. It allows reinforcement of the benefits and puts it in front of the customer for questions or further talking.

In practice, I tell the customer what I have, answer questions, and ask for the sale. I do so in the most honest and straight forward way that I can. In a nutshell, we both know I am a salesman but I still try to come off as being a person who shows the product and then the customer decides whether or not to buy.

So far, so good! -Cowman
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Huh? Gee, I dunno!shds;

My limited experience in closing is that I don't have a certain way.

As for me, although the the assumptive close is what was taught, it's not my favorite. It's almost an insult to the customer because he/she knows beyond a doubt what is going on. I very much dislike it and feel very uncomfortable using it.

If I look in a book I like the Ben Franklin close best. It allows reinforcement of the benefits and puts it in front of the customer for questions or further talking.

In practice, I tell the customer what I have, answer questions, and ask for the sale. I do so in the most honest and straight forward way that I can. In a nutshell, we both know I am a salesman but I still try to come off as being a person who shows the product and then the customer decides whether or not to buy.

So far, so good!
It's not that I disagree with any of this as I'm not qualified to comment, but I think I'd like to offer an alternative approach to consider.

First I'd like to proffer the suggestion that questioning your client prodigiously is appropriate to the endeavor of solving needs, offering new services, or presenting new ideas.

Relentless questioning of an appropriate nature will uncover a sale if one is in fact there. Some Sage said something to the effect that you can tell him something and not be able to sell him something, paraphrased as "telling aint selling". Dale Carnegie preached the mantra that no-one wants to listen to you, but that an accomplished listener is a great conversationalist. Bettger was told by a friend that he talked too much. Bettger stopped talking, started asking questions and then listened and sold more.

Action selling preaches proper questioning... "ask the best questions". Asking questions that seek to find out what the client does for a living, who his competition is, how does he get along now without your product, what and how he uses your competions product, if that is the case, and maybe how do others use your or your competitions products.

Ultimately what is it your company or you can do for your client... and it all comes from questioning... who, what, when, where, how and "what else"... has been pounded into me too.

I'm convinced that when you find out what someone does, you can find out what they need and if you can provide either a solution, a remedy, or a new idea.

Aloha... shds; ;bg -rattus58
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Huh? Gee, I dunno!shds;
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So far, so good!
Tell us what that last sentence means. -Ace Coldiron
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Tell us what that last sentence means.
It means: so far, so good! -Cowman
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It means: so far, so good!
I wasn't looking for a sarcastic answer which is not in the spirit of constructive discussion on this forum.

"So far-so good" could be easily construed as a measurement of results which is an important factor in our profession. I was simply asking for clarification which is common in these discussions--and helpful. -Ace Coldiron
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I wasn't looking for a sarcastic answer which is not in the spirit of constructive discussion on this forum.

"So far-so good" could be easily construed as a measurement of results which is an important factor in our profession. I was simply asking for clarification which is common in these discussions--and helpful.
I was yanking your rope a bit! Nothing more, nothing less. Discussion is good and fine. Having a bit of fun is very OK too. I hope so anyway! ;bg

Ya know, my best description is that things are going OK! The actual # of sales have been not been super but they have been at least average or above average when compared to the entire sales crew. I'm the only one there who has never sold before. So, things are going OK.

Now is a time for learning, getting a customer base and selling a few systems here and there. I'm not yet making enough money that I can make a living off of this but I never expected the money to start flowing in by the bucketloads.

Eh, not quite what you wanted, huh? I am missing the boat here a bit. I told you my basic beginning philosophy. I've told you how things are starting out. Tell me exactly what you are looking for and I'll try to provide a bit more satisfactory answer for you. -Cowman
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Tell me exactly what you are looking for and I'll try to provide a bit more satisfactory answer for you.
Clarification which you have now provided. You are correct in my opinion with regard to avoiding the transparent approach. -Ace Coldiron
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Hmmm, not sure I'm following the value of a list of top 10 sales closes unless you are listing the top 10 reasons someone won't buy from you.

If you've heard a close enough times to list it as one of the top 10 so have your prospects.

That means when you try to use it on a prospect they already have a conditioned response for overcoming that close.

Plus you've just triggered their defenses.

And that means you're going to have to work just that much harder to get back to neutral with that prospect so you have even a slim chance of being able to share your ideas with them.

I'd have to say I'm on the same page as Ace on this onethmbp2; -ccIowa
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The 'close' is that tiny part of the sales process where we assist the potential customer to step over the line.

They should already be there actually but using a few words simply formalises the situation.

It is no big deal (nor should it be) it is simply a confirmation of what both parties should have arrived at anyway....which is agreememnt to go ahead.

It is unfortunately seen as the magic pill that overweight people look for. The 'cure all', the '10 never fail closes' that gets punted around as a solution to all the woes of the saleperson.

If we have interacted with a potential customer in the correct way then they will stepped along the route through the minefield holding our hand (metaphorically) they trust us, they are happy with the place we have lead them to . . . so it's only natural they they say 'yes' when we ask 'shall we . . . . '

I only know one close. The words change a little depending on the situation.

It usually sounds a bit like this:

OK Fred...so based on everything we've said....
Would you like to.....?
Can I.....?
Shall we.....?
Would you like one of these?
Should I put your name down as a customer?

Plus at least 20 others I can think of.

'The Close' is a dreadful concept. Misunderstood by many and seen as the ultimate weapon by the inexperienced.

Truth is.....eventually.....you don't really need one. -helisell
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It's amazing I've lasted this long.
hahaha... this made me laugh. I feel the same way. Actually one of the reasons why I never learned good closes (at school) is because they lost me in the names. The few names I remember are:

Puppy dog close
Assumptive close

That's it... I just basically look at how it's done and then do it and forget about what the close is called... it confuses me too much.

Now I'm gonna go back and see if I can learn any more good closes!! -Andrea
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From my experience, closing is not an event. It is not about saying a well rehearsed statement to compel the prospect to say "Yes." In my opinion closing is the consummation of the sale. Therefore, it cannot be viewed in isolation. Simply put, there is no one magic close and therefore listing some names of some common, generic, one size fits all closes is interesting to sales geeks like me, but not very helpful to anyone who desires to impact their sales production.

I would even go so far as to say that learning sales closes in isolation of the rest of the sale, which is how they are usually taught, is counterproductive because it teaches sales people that some magical phrase that they utter will influence the prospect to such an extent that he will say "Yes." Such thinking is juvenile at best and disruptive at worst. -Harold
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From my experience, closing is not an event. It is not about saying a well rehearsed statement to compel the prospect to say "Yes." In my opinion closing is the consummation of the sale. Therefore, it cannot be viewed in isolation. Simply put, there is no one magic close and therefore listing some names of some common, generic, one size fits all closes is interesting to sales geeks like me, but not very helpful to anyone who desires to impact their sales production.

I would even go so far as to say that learning sales closes in isolation of the rest of the sale, which is how they are usually taught, is counterproductive because it teaches sales people that some magical phrase that they utter will influence the prospect to such an extent that he will say "Yes." Such thinking is juvenile at best and disruptive at worst.
I am very much agreement with your post. I define closing as a progression of consent which is counter to the notion that it is an event.

The isolation, as you put it, of closing from the rest of the process is a notion that is derived from support systems for ineffective selling based on highly fictional models. -Ace Coldiron
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It's refreshing to note that the tone of this thread is moving away from the absurd lists of crappy "killer closes".

The following are a couple of quotations, first from Mark Twain, American thinker and humorist and this quote has been utilised by Michael Hewitt-Gleeson in his book "WOMBAT selling" which can be downloaded in it's entirety absolutely FREE from his website. The second quote is from the book ...

‘I am aware when even the brightest mind in our world
has been trained up from childhood in a superstition of
any kind, it will never be possible for that mind, in its
maturity, to examine sincerely, dispassionately, and
conscientiously any evidence or any circumstance
which shall seem to cast a doubt upon the validity of
that superstition.’
Mark Twain

"In reality, this medieval dogma of ‘closing the sale’ is a
nonsense that is taught to salespeople as novices and
accepted by them as a sacred belief – and unfortunately,
it seems very few challenge that belief ever again. Like
an information virus that gets into their brains, ‘closing
the sale’ influences young salespeople’s behaviour and
dominates their sales activities. The costly failure of this
‘close-the-sale’ strategy is well documented and nothing
has so damaged the image of the sales profession than
this selling disease. It’s difficult to see how young
salespeople could be misled more than to be given the
impression that their job is to ‘close the sale".
Michael Hewitt-Gleeson

[Promotional link removed by Moderator] -Tony1905
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Tony, that's not a post---it's a WAKE UP CALL!! -Ace Coldiron
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Tony, that's not a post---it's a WAKE UP CALL!!
Oh yeah, so it is, ... that's what I like about you Ace, your contributions are always right on the money and, oh so perceptive. thmbp2;

Cheers,
Tony -Tony1905
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I suspect the importance placed on closing is an artifact generated by sales managers who are prone to say, "He sells well but has trouble closing." One of those statements that sounds good on the surface but has no real meaning behind it.

Many people make great presentations, flawlessly expounding on the features and benefits of their products yet fail to come home with an order. As the saying goes, "Great operation doctor, too bad the patient died!"

Others stumble through their presentation make numerous faux pas and still manage to bring home the bacon. Why? I'm not sure I can answer though I suspect that those who succeed find a way to transfer their enthusiasm to their customers in spite of their failings. -Fibonacci
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I suspect the importance placed on closing is an artifact generated by sales managers who are prone to say, "He sells well but has trouble closing." One of those statements that sounds good on the surface but has no real meaning behind it.

Many people make great presentations, flawlessly expounding on the features and benefits of their products yet fail to come home with an order. As the saying goes, "Great operation doctor, too bad the patient died!"

Others stumble through their presentation make numerous faux pas and still manage to bring home the bacon. Why? I'm not sure I can answer though I suspect that those who succeed find a way to transfer their enthusiasm to their customers in spite of their failings.
If you sell well, you don't need to close. It comes along with the process you provide the client au natural... organically, I've heard many times, is the culmination of joining your solution to his/her need/want/desire uncovered through thougtful exploration of your client.

Aloha... Tom :cool: -rattus58
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I spent many years in study prior to what I do today and two years in deeper sales closing, etc.s study as I began - I still study two - three hours a day and work on the sales/development aspect of my business another two - three hours a day with additional time given to my team's efforts.

What I've found is that when what you do is integrated and of a whole and your main objective is to find out if the prospect wants what you offer, the close defines itself in the process of dialogue and it's usually not any one this or that closing tactic.

It's an instinctive yet learned response to needs, wants and the questions that uncover what has to happen next, then next.

Then: ok, who is next.

The best of succes to all and thanks for all your wisdom, Ace.

MitchM -MitchM
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An interesting thread but was hoping for more info on specific "closes". I agree with Ace's point of view however.

A bit off-topic but I've been closing existing clients at 76% and prospects at around 40% week to week. Ace you mention having a very high closing rate. Care to disclose? Just wondering where I fall - poor - mediocre - average - above average\

Thanks -johnwsnow
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An interesting thread but was hoping for more info on specific "closes". I agree with Ace's point of view however.

A bit off-topic but I've been closing existing clients at 76% and prospects at around 40% week to week. Ace you mention having a very high closing rate. Care to disclose? Just wondering where I fall - poor - mediocre - average - above average\

Thanks
It's all relative and standards vary.

Here are some personal closing measurements drawn from the last 20 years:
  • "Large" commercial RFQ projects which I negotatiated in circumstances where I was one of five competing for the sale. Slightly over 62% (Note: With the exception of politically influenced, i.e. Government work, etc, that success rate was unprecedented in the arenas I have worked.)
  • All other, which accounted for the greater portion of my volume (last 20 years). Approximatly 92%. In two time periods which lasted one and a half years each, during that time, my success rate was 96% and 98.3% respectively. (Note: Those success rates are unprecendented in my industry.)
-Ace Coldiron
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I remember back in 2005 when I was in my first week of car sales I just came up with a close on the spot - and while the psychology behind it may already have been wrapped up under the name of an official 'Close', I've never heard it anywhere else by anyone in this variation.

For me, it's my TOP TEN and I use it in my Mental Fitness Training business - I call it my

Romance Close:

Young guy wanted a new Mustang and even with a massive discount it came out to be $50 a month over his budget. As he sat there at the 'Closing Table' with his dear newlywed wife (they'd been dating for a couple years) lamenting the fact that he wouldn't be able to take it home.

I asked his wife, "Ma'am, you guys had been going out quite a while before you got married - isn't it great to finally do it?"

"Yes."

"Now that you're married, what you want to make sure to do is keep the small, little, romantic moments going, am I right?"

"Sure."

"You guys eat out at restaurants?"

"Every week. We're busy and don't have much time for cooking."

"Hey, I know what you mean. Let me ask you this, how much does it cost you on average to eat out at a decent place here in town?"

"Oh, about $70 to $80."

"I see. Well, do you consider yourself a romantic person?"

"Very."

"And you like it when [Name] takes the lead and thinks of romantic things to do?"

"Definitely."

"Hmmm...when's the last time you guys went on a romantic picnic out by yourselves - y'know, with the nice tablecloth and the wicker basket, some wine, a little cheese, gazing into each one another's eyes beneath the shaded trees - anytime recently?"

"No, it's been a while (as she's giving him a funny look)."

"Well, I know you guys love the car, and I know the numbers are coming in slightly over budget, but I think I have a way for you to not only get the new Mustang, but use it to get more romance in your life."

"How's that?"

"Here's what I'm thinking. Do you think you guys would enjoy taking a couple days out every month to go on a nice, romantic picnic to spend some quality time with each other."

She enthusiastically answers to the affirmative as she reaches for his hand and smiles.

"Well, if you guys would just take that time to enjoy a little more romance in your lives, you'd be cutting your restaurant bill by at least $50 to $80 a month, right?"

"That's true."

"Think about it now - with that $50 dollars you're not spending, YOU CAN DRIVE UP TO THE PICNIC SPOT IN A BRAND NEW MUSTANG!!! HOW COOL WOULD THAT BE!?!

[Laughing] "We never thought of it that way!"

"Great, just give me a couple of initials here and here and I'll get the Mustang all cleaned up for you and you can drive off to your new romantic life!"

"Okay!" -DynamicMentalFitness
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Thanks Ace. That does sound impressive. What industry are you in?

Any advice on how your hitting those numbers? Is there a method to your madness? -johnwsnow
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Any advice on how your hitting those numbers? Is there a method to your madness?
Certainly methods have been something I have put a great deal of focus and efforts into.

This is not a thread on selling method or systems--it's about "closes" which I believe the understanding of which is poorly taught and conveyed in most sales training.

I define closing as a progression of consent and I would have to say the success rates I divulged would in part be a result of that viewpoint. -Ace Coldiron
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haha... That was quick thinking.... ;bg Shows yer thinking on your feet and sort of horse trading... the quarter horse for the thoroughbred. I can tell ya thou this aint gonna be working on my missuse...

This close is kinda like what Ziglar and Hopkins call breaking it down to the ridiculous I think it was or something like that... break it down to something insignificant... like a cup of coffee or soda

$50 a month works out to $.31 an hour of the work week, or at minimum wage, the first two and a half minutes of work. So there ya go... the first 2.5 minutes buys you the car, the rest goes for gas... :)

Picnic does sound more romantic tho....

Aloha... and Merry Christmas -rattus58
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Certainly methods have been something I have put a great deal of focus and efforts into.

This is not a thread on selling method or systems--it's about "closes" which I believe the understanding of which is poorly taught and conveyed in most sales training.

I define closing as a progression of consent and I would have to say the success rates I divulged would in part be a result of that viewpoint.
Ok... this is the third time this program recyled me.. so I'm out of here...

A sale in my opinion is a culmination of a series of consents and agreements. A close in my mind signifies a specific action. A story, storyline, exhibit or trial, and precedes the question to take action.

Aloha.... :cool: -rattus58
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Ok... this is the third time this program recyled me.. so I'm out of here...

A sale in my opinion is a culmination of a series of consents and agreements. A close in my mind signifies a specific action. A story, storyline, exhibit or trial, and precedes the question to take action.

Aloha.... :cool:
But let's take a look at the inference of the topic. Doesn't it seem to you that "10 closes" would suggest neatly wrapped techniques through wording or story telling--many predetermined and even given names i.e, Puppy Dog, Front Porch, Outhouse, Alternate Advance, etc etc--many that have been exhaustively discussed over the years at SalesPractice.

And does all that mean that a simple "You want to go ahead?" would be less artistic and LESS EVENTFUL!!! than the thrust home that ends the refrain which these cutesy techniques are suppose to represent.

You think those thousands of sales were lay downs? Closing ratios of 95 plus% and not a single cutesy close among them. Unless you think I'm BSing you, where do you think a person who really wants to know about selling should really put their learning skills?

Top 10 Closes of All Time---GIVE ME BREAK! -Ace Coldiron
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I suspect the importance placed on closing is an artifact generated by sales managers who are prone to say, "He sells well but has trouble closing." One of those statements that sounds good on the surface but has no real meaning behind it.
And I suspect that you suspect correctly. -Ace Coldiron
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A story/storyline for example might be asking someone..

"We've all heard of seeing our lives flashing before our eyes, haven't we? Have you ever had your family's life flash in front of you without you there?" We oughta just do this shouldn't we? -rattus58
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And does all that mean that a simple "You want to go ahead?" would be less artistic and LESS EVENTFUL!!! than the thrust home that ends the refrain which these cutesy techniques are suppose to represent.
I don't know what is going on with my computer. I didn't even see these nor was there a notification... oh well...

I personally think that the less dramatic the more effective... or to put your terms to use, the more eventful the meeting.

I prefer to have the sale culminate with a "So we're good ... or something equally inoccuous that signals agreement for action.

Merry Christmas... :cool: -rattus58
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A story/storyline for example might be asking someone..

"We've all heard of seeing our lives flashing before our eyes, haven't we? Have you ever had your family's life flash in front of you without you there?" We oughta just do this shouldn't we?
That's in the category of convicton. The immediate follow up with a "closing question" is misplaced in my opinion---even though you have structured it as SO many "trainers" suggest.

I don't buy it. -Ace Coldiron
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I don't know what is going on with my computer. I didn't even see these nor was there a notification... oh well...

I personally think that the less dramatic the more effective... or to put your terms to use, the more eventful the meeting.

I prefer to have the sale culminate with a "So we're good ... or something equally inoccuous that signals agreement for action.

Merry Christmas... :cool:
YEP!!! We're on the same page, Tom. And I wish you and your family a joyful Christmas as mine has been. The brandy's good too. A gift of Courvoisier. -Ace Coldiron
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That's in the category of convicton. The immediate follow up with a "closing question" is misplaced in my opinion---even though you have structured it as SO many "trainers" suggest.

I don't buy it.
Actually, though I rarely use such storylines, I don't really just follow up with "we ought to do this" but would wait for him or her to achknowledge the scenario in which case it would look more like this...

Sales Guy .. "We've all heard of seeing our lives flashing before our eyes, haven't we? Have you ever had your family's life flash in front of you without you there?"

Victim... "Well no I haven't actually"
SalesGuy " Well how comfortable is that vision for you?
Victim ... "No very"
SalesGuy... "We oughta just do this shouldn't we?"

Would be more the likely scenario.

And I'm surprised that so far this trip , I've only had to do this once... :)

Aloha... :cool: -rattus58
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That's in the category of convicton.
What do you mean by "in the category of conviction?"

Aloha... Tom :cool: -rattus58
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What do you mean by "in the category of conviction?"

Aloha... Tom :cool:
The process of adding information in order to strenghten the choice to move forward, i.e., MORE REASONS WHY.

I the way I personally sell, I strive to reach a point in a prospective buyer's mind where the decision to move forward is the obvious correct choice.

A lot of people talk about buyers buying for emotional reasons rather than logical reasons. In my view either of those paths are less important than the point we want people to reach where they buy because it is the OBVIOUS thing to do---having engaged in an examination of the options.

As much as I value storytelling in sales, the very idea that we can consistently affect a prospect's emotions through some canned story tactic is downright silly. I hope that the less experienced people that come here to learn will put that in the trash can. -Ace Coldiron
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The process of adding information in order to strenghten the choice to move forward, i.e., MORE REASONS WHY.

I the way I personally sell, I strive to reach a point in a prospective buyer's mind where the decision to move forward is the obvious correct choice.

A lot of people talk about buyers buying for emotional reasons rather than logical reasons. In my view either of those paths are less important than the point we want people to reach where they buy because it is the OBVIOUS thing to do---having engaged in an examination of the options.

As much as I value storytelling in sales, the very idea that we can consistently affect a prospect's emotions through some canned story tactic is downright silly. I hope that the less experienced people that come here to learn will put that in the trash can.
I agree.... I feel that the sale that is anti-climactic is the one that you've done your job the best. That is why we use our explore, identify, recommend, and agree process. Story telling I feel is for those moments of hesitation where you've had agreement to start with.

Aloha... :cool: -rattus58
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I agree.... I feel that the sale that is anti-climactic is the one that you've done your job the best. That is why we use our explore, identify, recommend, and agree process. Story telling I feel is for those moments of hesitation where you've had agreement to start with.

Aloha... :cool:
Yep Son, you've got it right! -Ace Coldiron
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This close is kinda like what Ziglar and Hopkins call breaking it down to the ridiculous I think it was or something like that... break it down to something insignificant... like a cup of coffee or soda
Now THAT'S something I'm familiar with. I especially like to use it on MYSELF when there's something to be done that I'm not in the mood to do!

I've been meditating all this week on the concept of Sales Pros using Close Psychology on themselves to take personal possession of any useful concept, thereby integrating it into their lives.

I'm hoping some interesting post threads will come out of my pondering. -DynamicMentalFitness
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I love The "Alternate of Choice" Close.

Would you like it in blue or red?

Let's make an appointment. Which is more convenient for you--Monday or Wednesday next week? -Eagle Sales Resumes
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I use the "alternate close" all the time for setting up appointments. It works well. -johnwsnow
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