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Originally Posted by Gary Boye
Can you be more specific? For instance, something about selling that would incorporate the "heres" and "theres".
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Let's say that I want to convince a lender to sell a specific property to me at a price lower than he/she has already been offered by other investors.
I've do my homework and find out what the lender "has" to have on the property and in addition I find out that the lender has a dozen distressed units sitting on the books that they "need" to get rid of ASAP so I research those properties too.
My premise for meeting with the lender will not be "I want to buy a home" but rather "I'm an investor and I'd like to meet with you to introduce myself and see what's involved with doing business with you in the future." (This sets the tone.)
When I meet with the lender I'm treated rather kindly because I'm a new money source. (I'm counting on that.

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In the course of the conversation I ask questions that amplify the lenders perceived need to liquidate inventory. (I want this lender white hot.)
I also inquire in an off-hand manner about current and future possibilities specifically looking to uncover my target property and distressed units. (We are talking as individuals not buyer and seller because of the premise of my call.)
Once the lender is feeling the burn and the target property has been disclosed I make my move.
In the same off-hand manner I mention to the lender that I could use a property like the one being mentioned, however, I do have a cap of $X (Say 10% below the highest price I would pay) for this "type" of property (Not this "specific" property).
I strengthen my position by informing the lender that my offer is CASH (pulling out my check book) and that I have a Title company in the wings at all times and can close immediately. Negotiations have now started.
If we cannot come to an agreement during the course of normal negotiations I do have an ace up my sleeve if I want to use it. The "ace" is the second "distressed property".
I make the lender a offer on the two homes as a "package" but the offer expires when I walk out of the room. I'm a business man, this is a business decision. Fish or cut bait. Either way I don't care.
Of course, I might rekindle the fire of desire by disussing the impact of having distressed properties on the books, monthly outlay for both homes, etc.
Anyway... does that sound like strategy?