Prospecting is a marketing function

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 #151
Houston

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Originally Posted by AZBroker
How would you like to be treated by Doctors who never had training? Yikes!
No thank you.

 #152
BossMan

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Originally Posted by Bald Dog
Instead of focusing on developing a consistent marketing programme, many companies just hire an army of peddlers and hucksters (professional salespeople would be too expensive to hire) on pure commission, so there is no upfront investment in those people. And with zero training they send them out to roam the land and hunt for new business.
I have seen this in action.

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Originally Posted by Bald Dog
So, if I had a company, instead of hiring a large sales force, I would hire a good copywriter who can generate preponderance of sales leads and nurture them into conversion by sitting on his arse and banging on his keyboard. It's a bit more profitable.
Do you prefer one advertising avenue over another?

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 #153
Bald Dog

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Originally Posted by BossMan
Do you prefer one advertising avenue over another?
This article may clarify a few things: http://www.varjan.com/articles/0606-...-gearbox.shtml

I like to using various methods to bring people to the website (my hub) and download my free report. Now I have their names and email and the right to stay in touch with them using valuable information. The key is that the gentle sales message is embedded into the information. And when they are ready, they come to the person who's been educating them how to solve their biggest problems. It virtually never fails.

They buy when they are ready to buy not when I want to sell.

Thoughts?

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 #154
susana
Prospecting is a Marketing Function

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Originally Posted by AZBroker
Definately. I don't find this surprising though because I doubt if the typical salesperson has invested much time in education or training. Can you imagine if other fields allowed this? How would you like to be treated by Doctors who never had training? Yikes!
I've actually determined that my sales training has cost around $100,000. Over 20 years, with at least one course every year (some really expensive), it has added up.

Susan

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 #155
AZBroker

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Originally Posted by susana
I've actually determined that my sales training has cost around $100,000. Over 20 years, with at least one course every year (some really expensive), it has added up.

Susan
It's probably fair to say that you do not represent the "typical" salesperson.

 #156
susana
Prospecting is a Marketing Function

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Originally Posted by AZBroker
It's probably fair to say that you do not represent the "typical" salesperson.
That's probably true.

I will put this question out there...what kind of training are most people on the forum getting? Are you attending seminars/workshops? Reading books?

Susan

 #157
Bald Dog

Susana,

Personally I focus more on learning marketing and PR. I’ve found it more valuable than memorising closing scripts and way to overcome objections. With that ‘I’ve achieved pretty good incoming gravity.

Just imagine this: If you want to eat roasted elephant stake, you can either start chasing elephants all over hell’s half acre or become a watering hole and attract them. The smart elephant hunter baits and waits. He knows the beasts will come, and all he has to do is to prepare the fire, the frying pan and buy the appropriate wine.

In warfare, good warriors often make the enemy come to them. Who comes to you has a force of emptiness, and you have a force of fullness. Attacking emptiness with fullness is always a great idea and results in fairly effortless implementation.

I keep putting out valuable information, so I attract very specific buyers into my sales funnel. In time they come to the conclusion that I’m not only expensive but worth the investment too.

There is no closing and typical selling to do. We jointly decide whether or not we have a mutually beneficial basis for working together.

The whole idea is that I give them a way out if they choose to. This is missing from traditional selling.

Together my formal and informal education, I’ve got some $340,000 in the game, and only a tiny part is sales-related. On sales I only have Jeff Thull’s books because he presents a breakthrough in selling and I like it.

While the Zig Ziglar and Tom Hopkins approaches may be valid, I don’t like them for their manipulative nature. But, it’s manipulative to me. Not for everyone. For instance, I don’t over come objections because I respect people’s decision. I don’t have to argue with them because I have enough incoming “buyer’s traffic” who are ready to hire me.

Also, unlike Zig or Tom, I don’t indent to turn each enquiry into clients.

But it also depends what we sell. I’m a one-man show, charge pretty steep and work with only a very few clients. Selling commodities is a different approach but I couldn’t comment on that because it’s outside my realm.

Toughts?

 #158
susana
Prospecting is a marketing function

[quote=Bald Dog]Susana,

While the Zig Ziglar and Tom Hopkins approaches may be valid, I don’t like them for their manipulative nature. But, it’s manipulative to me. Not for everyone. For instance, I don’t over come objections because I respect people’s decision. I don’t have to argue with them because I have enough incoming “buyer’s traffic” who are ready to hire me.

I've never had to manipulate a prospect. Either they're sold and ready to close or they're not sold and I ask why. If it's something I can change, I see if we can still move forward toward a purchase. If not, I congragulate them on what they're buying and leave the door open for future discussions. Never burn a bridge.



Susan.

 #159
JacquesWerth

I've never had to manipulate a prospect. Either they're sold and ready to close or they're not sold and I ask why. If it's something I can change, I see if we can still move forward toward a purchase. If not, I congragulate them on what they're buying and leave the door open for future discussions. Never burn a bridge. Susan

Assuming that you only work with High Probability Prospects, your chance of closing most of them will be quite high.

What if you were to get a commitment on each feature (that feature’s benefits and its detriments) of your product and service? The commitment is that the feature in question is either acceptable or a deal killer.

You will find that there are seldom any features that are deal killers. The result is a large number of positive commitments. The culmination of all those commitments is that most prospects close themselves.

This is not rocket science. It's just a modern form of non-manipulative selling.

 #160
AZBroker

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Originally Posted by susana
That's probably true.

I will put this question out there...what kind of training are most people on the forum getting? Are you attending seminars/workshops? Reading books?

Susan
My training comes from workshops, inservices, seminars, reading, OJT, and experience.



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