The Best List of Manipulative Sales Techniques
For those who want to use them and those who want to avoid them, but don't know what they are, let's put together a list of manipulative sales techniques.
Anyone game? -Agent Smith
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For those who want to use them and those who want to avoid them, but don't know what they are, let's put together a list of manipulative sales techniques.
Anyone game?
Good idea!
Does car dealers hiding the keys to your trade-in count? :yi -AZBroker
Manipulative sales techniques? That's an urban legend created to sell "Revolutionary, Re-invented, or New and Improved" sales training. ;wi -SalesGuy
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Does car dealers hiding the keys to your trade-in count? :yi
Nope. That's just good business... ask any car/truck salesmanager. :in -Agent Smith
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Nope. That's just good business... ask any car/truck salesmanager. :in
I think I'll buy my next car online so I don't have to ask. ;bg -AZBroker
The best list of manipulation techniques? This could go downhill quick. ;bg
One thing I think some salepeople do is try to butter up the prospect vs. offering sincere praise.
Another thing I think some salespeople do is try to feigne interest instead of becoming genuinely interested in the prospect. -Jolly Roger
To avoid misunderstanding what does "manipulative" mean to you Agent Smith? -SalesCoach
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To avoid misunderstanding what does "manipulative" mean to you Agent Smith?
My bad. I'll go with, "Influencing or controlling others to your own advantage". ;wi -Agent Smith
Emotional Buying Triggers. If you can tap into someone's emotions, you're ready to sell something.
Susan -susana
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Emotional Buying Triggers. If you can tap into someone's emotions, you're ready to sell something.
Susan
Do you have examples of emotional buying triggers? -Thomas
If you're interested in reading about emotional buying triggers, check out Joe Sugarman. He wrote extensively on the topic.
From a more personal standpoint, the prospect and the product determine what kind of emotional buying trigger you might use.
Susan -susana
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My bad. I'll go with, "Influencing or controlling others to your own advantage". ;wi
IMO, "Manipulation" is about "Behavior". Remember, "Guns don't kill people. People kill people." -SalesGuy
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IMO, "Manipulation" is about "Behavior". Remember, "Guns don't kill people. People kill people."
I can agree with this so I'll change the question to, "What are some of the behaviors or techniques that salespeople use to manipulate others?" -Agent Smith
Would "finding the pain" count as a manipulative technique? -saltydog
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Would "finding the pain" count as a manipulative technique?
It would if the "Intent" was to spin the buyer up for the purpose of making a sale. -SalesCoach
An "alternate choice close" is often used in a manipulative way. -Jolly Roger
One technique I see telemarketers use that I find insulting is when you tell them you're not interested and they respond with a question like, "What, are you no longer in the business?"
I had one of these in the last ten minutes. :cr -Houston
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If you're interested in reading about emotional buying triggers, check out Joe Sugarman. He wrote extensively on the topic.
From a more personal standpoint, the prospect and the product determine what kind of emotional buying trigger you might use.
Susan
Are these emotional buying triggers like what Coda1108 was talking about uncovering a buyer's true motivation with Dale Carnegie training? -Marcus
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Are these emotional buying triggers like what Coda1108 was talking about uncovering a buyer's true motivation with Dale Carnegie training?
I never took the Dale Carnegie class, so I can't speak to the specifics of what they teach. An example from Sugarman would be greed. Greed is an emotional buying trigger. An example of this would be buying something you don't need just because it was such a great bargain.
Hope that helps
Susan -susana
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I never took the Dale Carnegie class, so I can't speak to the specifics of what they teach. An example from Sugarman would be greed. Greed is an emotional buying trigger. An example of this would be buying something you don't need just because it was such a great bargain.
Hope that helps
Susan
That does help Susan. I will start another thread on buying motives. Thank you. -Marcus
The definitive book on manipulative techniques is "Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion" by Robert B. Cialdini. It is a very good read.
If you have a psychological need for power and control, this book will probably turn you on and feed your neurosis. If you have a healthy ego, you will probably do everything you can to learn how to sell without manipulation.
Cialdini seems to advocate the latter. However, that might be my own biased opinion. -JacquesWerth
These are covered in Robert B. Cialdini's book:
- Reciprocation
- Commitment and Consistency
- Social Proof
- Liking
- Authority
- Scarcity
I think a discussion on how to apply these rules in every day sales would be interesting. ;bg -AZBroker
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I think a discussion on how to apply these rules in every day sales would be interesting.
Limited offers like a 2-day sale utilize the scarcity principle. No manipulation, just an opportunity with a deadline. -WobblyBox
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Limited offers like a 2-day sale utilize the scarcity principle. No manipulation, just an opportunity with a deadline.
What would you do if the prospect did not accept your 2-day sale, but came back a week later and wanted to buy the same deal then? -JacquesWerth
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What would you do if the prospect did not accept your 2-day sale, but came back a week later and wanted to buy the same deal then?
No deal. You snooze you lose. -WobblyBox
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No deal. You snooze you lose.
Even if it was the next day? -Calvin
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Even if it was the next day?
If you set an expiration date for a promotion, you have to stick to it. We always had price increases at the start of the year. If somebody buys at 11;59 on the 31st, they get the '06 price. Any time after that, they get the '07 price. If you start moving a line you've set, you lose crediblity.
Susan -susana
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Nope. That's just good business... ask any car/truck salesmanager. :in
IMO, the
TO sales system used in auto dealerships is a manipulative sales technique. -Liberty
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IMO, the TO sales system used in auto dealerships is a manipulative sales technique.
Yes, the "Take Over" is a very manipulative sales tactic.
As you may recall, I used to own a car dealership. Two of the first things I did was get rid of the TO, and greatly modify the Up system. And, our dealership's profits increased almost immediately.
It is unfortunate for car dealers and their customers that most dealers haven't changed their selling tactics since the 1960s. Lately, some dealers and one car manufacturer (Saturn) have been introducing more modern selling systems - with excellent results. -JacquesWerth
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If you set an expiration date for a promotion, you have to stick to it. We always had price increases at the start of the year. If somebody buys at 11;59 on the 31st, they get the '06 price. Any time after that, they get the '07 price. If you start moving a line you've set, you lose crediblity.
Susan
But in many cases it is possible to lose credibility by setting expiration dates for no other reason than to create a sense of urgency.
Of course there are legitimate reasons, i.e. pending cost increases, time limits imposed by third party authorizers, etc.
As a buyer, if I can't detect a justifiable reason for a a limited time offer, I might very well choose not to do business at all with the that seller. -Gary Boye
The most effective manipulative technique in selling is to tell the truth. In life also. -Gary Boye
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Yes, the "Take Over" is a very manipulative sales tactic.
As you may recall, I used to own a car dealership. Two of the first things I did was get rid of the TO, and greatly modify the Up system. And, our dealership's profits increased almost immediately.
It is unfortunate for car dealers and their customers that most dealers haven't changed their selling tactics since the 1960s. Lately, some dealers and one car manufacturer (Saturn) have been introducing more modern selling systems - with excellent results.
How does the technique work Jacques? -Marcus
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The most effective manipulative technique in selling is to tell the truth. In life also.
Ok Gary, I'll bite, how is telling the truth the most effective manipulative technique in selling and life? -Agent Smith
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Ok Gary, I'll bite, how is telling the truth the most effective manipulative technique in selling and life?
It's something I would rather live my life experiencing, rather than intellectualizing. But I'll give you a brief answer, and I'm afraid it will have to suffice.
The truth in our world is very rare, and, because of that, it has the tactical element of surprise. It's been my experience that the surprise, much more often than not, leads to very positive results. In selling, in relationships, and in life.
Just to clarify--by "truth", I'm in the context of honest statements to the best of our knowledge--not the context of the age old philosophical question, "What is truth?' -Gary Boye
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The truth in our world is very rare, and, because of that, it has the tactical element of surprise. It's been my experience that the surprise, much more often than not, leads to very positive results. In selling, in relationships, and in life.
What about that is "Manipulative"? -Agent Smith
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What about that is "Manipulative"?
In strategy, the aforementioned tactical element of surprise is akin to manipulative.
"Manipulative" might mean something else to you, and that's OK. -Gary Boye
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In strategy, the aforementioned tactical element of surprise is akin to manipulative.
"Manipulative" might mean something else to you, and that's OK.
I'm open. What does "Manipulative" mean in strategy? -Agent Smith
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I'm open. What does "Manipulative" mean in strategy?
In order to grasp a concept, it helps to see both the
genus and the
differentia with regard to comparative concepts. For instance, a dictionary definition of "manipulative" is: devious
: using clever, devious ways to control or influence somebody or something. (Encarta)
In strategy, manipulation may or may nor be "devious". The determinants of "control" or "influence" consist of the ways used to advance one's position. Manipulation would be a way or movement to advance a position.
In the post which drew forth your queries, I descibed telling the truth as a form of manipulation within the context of a discussion on selling. Certainly it would not fall under a definition which includes "devious".
Again, the topic is something I would rather live and experience, rather than intellectualize or spend an inordinate amount of time discussing here. -Gary Boye
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The most effective manipulative technique in selling is to tell the truth.
If anybody ever finds a definition of manipulation that sheds light on Gary's statement please post it here. ;bl -Houston
I wish I could invent an Automatic Hair Splitting machine for those poor ignorant people that do not have the aptitude or inclination for this kind of conversation. -JacquesWerth
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If anybody ever finds a definition of manipulation that sheds light on Gary's statement please post it here. ;bl
I think Gary is talking about using "Surprise" as a way to manipulate or advance a position and telling the "Truth" is a cause of this surprise. -AZBroker
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I think Gary is talking about using "Surprise" as a way to manipulate or advance a position and telling the "Truth" is a cause of this surprise.
Yes. I think that summarizes it well.
Many people say that "honesty is its own reward", but that would be a matter for a different discussion. -Gary Boye
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I think Gary is talking about using "Surprise" as a way to manipulate or advance a position and telling the "Truth" is a cause of this surprise.
AZ how is surprise or truth "The most effective manipulative technique in selling"? -Houston
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AZ how is surprise or truth "The most effective manipulative technique in selling"?
That is Gary's personal opinion. You'll have to get the answer from him. -AZBroker
Don't discount the effectiveness of "Intimidation" for manipulating or advancing a position. ;wi -SalesGuy
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AZ how is surprise or truth "The most effective manipulative technique in selling"?
There seems to be a comprehension problem here. Just because AZ did a fine job of summarizing my posted thoughts doesn't mean he agrees with them. He may or may not, but at least he took the time to try to understand what another person was expressing.
Houston, if you disagree with my opinions, just say so. Nobody will bite your head off. Differences of opinion make for a better forum. Issuing a cry for help, among the thousands of visitors to this site, merely to explain my words, seems like waste of time. -Gary Boye
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There seems to be a comprehension problem here. Just because AZ did a fine job of summarizing my posted thoughts doesn't mean he agrees with them. He may or may not, but at least he took the time to try to understand what another person was expressing.
Houston, if you disagree with my opinions, just say so. Nobody will bite your head off. Differences of opinion make for a better forum. Issuing a cry for help, among the thousands of visitors to this site, merely to explain my words, seems like waste of time.
I didn't have a difference of opinion about this Gary. I just didn't understand what you were saying. ;bl -Houston
For conversational reframing try "Mind Lines". -Milton
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How does the technique work Jacques?
Anybody? How does the TO technique work? -Marcus
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Anybody? How does the TO technique work?
The technique goes something like this... you're working with a salesperson (liner) who lands you on a vehicle. When you've agreed that you'd be interested in talking about a deal the salesperson turns you over to another salesperson (closer). -Liberty
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Anyone game?
Does car dealers hiding the keys to your trade-in count? :yi -AZBroker