Fear of Success

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 #21
MitchM
insights & facts & truths & meanings

Facts and truths are important to understand - the distinctions challenge me at times. How people integrate the different aspects of their lives and what produces pain for one and not another - or the price to pay or not to pay - is a big topic.

I'm convinced that success is not dependent on paying a price that inflicts pain in one's family, one's other lifestyle needs although I'm sure for some that's true.

Likewise, I've seen people pay the price - if paying the price means time away from family - working a job and a half just making ends meet. Yet contrary to that, I've also seen very happy families even when mom and dad put in long hours away from home earning a $45,000 yearly income.

MitchM

 #22
Masteri5

AZBroker

Thanks for the kind words. It would be nice to think we know it all, that just isn't reality.

As for where was I when you were starting out. Let's take that statement and see where it leads us. I would assume your comment means something along the line of avoiding mistakes, pitfalls, etc. when we first start. (If not, I have missed the context but its my post so lets continue.)

One of the things sales organizations fail to do is utilitze an EFFECTIVE mentoring program for new people. They generally just point at someone and say..."help the new guy"...without thought to whether the person they pointed at is really capable of being a mentor.

Some organizations simply do nothing more than say..."Here is your desk, here is the phone, good luck and show us what you can do."

What we end up with are salespeople ill-equipped to be productive. They spend vital sales time just trying to figure out who's who, who the big dog is, what they need to do to stay out of harm's way, etc. So what you get is people who learn by utilizing

ON THE JOB TRAINING

here is a proverb to ponder...Experience is a great teacher but the tuition will kill you.

I could go on and on but suffice to say, very few of us have had a great mentoring experience and learned most of the sales business the hard way. What works, what doesn't., etc. I would prefer to make my mistakes during training, not in front of the paying customers.

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 #23
SalesCoach
If wishes were fishes we'd all have a fry.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Masteri5
Yes, a high price is part of the payment. Payments made in terms of time invested, education, doing what ought to be done as opposed to what you would rather be doing, etc.
Without a doubt there is a price to pay for success. To think otherwise is wishful thinking.

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 #24
AZBroker

Quote:
Originally Posted by Masteri5
I could go on and on but suffice to say, very few of us have had a great mentoring experience and learned most of the sales business the hard way. What works, what doesn't., etc. I would prefer to make my mistakes during training, not in front of the paying customers.
I'm with you all the way.

 #25
MitchM
prices to pay

There's a price to pay for failing to be successful - that's also a cliche with enough truth to fit some situations. I know very successful people whose incomes range from $250,000 to a million dollars a year who haven't paid a price for their success - that's as much a fact in thrie case as it is that some "pay a price."

MitchM

 #26
Masteri5

MitchM

Part of what keeps a debate like this going is what you mentioned above. Success has a different definition for each of us. We look around and often make the statement..."There but for the grace of God go I."

It is not up to me to comment on what amount of money equals success...Howard Hughes was still working when he died...how much is enough?

I see families with what we consider very meager posessions...but all of them value the importance of family and are smiling.

Not to be maudlin but my wife watches a tv show where a crew completely rebuilds a home for deserving people (not a dry eye in the house) and I ask myself if what I am doing is really that significant.

Questions each of us have to answer for ourselves. In the context of this forum, however, sales and success in sales is the issue. The results we achieve are simple to measure against the performance of others in our own industry or even our own company.

SalesCoach
Nice title to your post. If I can paraphrase...Wish in one hand and put dirt in the other and see which one fills up...

 #27
Gary Boye

Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent Smith
Fear of success (what will happen if I succeed?) is not the same as fear of failure (what will happen if I fail?)

Fear of failure and fear of success are not uncommon roadblocks Gary. Are you at all familiar with these concepts?
I am familiar with the fact that they are popular memes.

Again...I would love to hear from somebody who has a fear of success...so that person could describe it.

 #28
Gary Boye
Agreed

Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent Smith
Excellent post Masteri5.
Absolutely. Examine it closely, and it is really about yielding to underlying commitments rather than the popular "concept" of fear of success.

 #29
Masteri5

Gary Boye

If you will permit me to play devil's advocate I would like to comment on your post.

I am not certain anyone will post about their fear of success. One of the issues people have that prevents their success is the fear of looking foolish in front of others. I would have to believe that lots of folks read these posts and have an opinion they will never share for that very reason. Gosh, what if I put my thoughts out there and everybody jumps on me or calls my words simplistic, idiotic or not worthy. That very fear prevents us from hearing from some very bright people.

It also prevents people from being better because they are inhibited about trying something labeled different or out of the box for fear people will ridicule them.

"That will never work"..."Are you crazy"..."Whatever gave you that impression?"

Easier just to go with the flow, not make waves, not stretch...much easier than facing the fear of success and the duplication of the effort that lead to the success.

Best wishes to you. I hope someone who is really afraid of success will screw up enough courage to tell us first hand.

 #30
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