I don't always know - sometimes people are misleading or they don't know yet so we talk a little - but last week I said these words to Deb, "You're a good talker Deb and in lots of pain. I'm going to be straight, are you really looking for help or are we just talking and having a friendly conversation?"
She told my wife and I in no uncertain terms she was looking for relief. Then I said, "If you like what you see what will you do? And she said, "If I like what I see I'm going to do whatever you tell me to do."
That's very close to what happened on the phone - so we drove to her home and met.
I often say, "Interested usually means just passing the time away or wasting it away. When I'm interested I ask for a brochure and it ends up in the trash under the coffee grounds. When I really want something I know it and act upon it. Do you really want this or are we just passing the time away?
Mitch