Turn Down That Sale

Originally Posted by Gold Calling So, why debate with someone who simply has not been there? What can we learn? The purpose of this thread was to mention that Mitch will "turn down the sale". Why? Could it be that it is due to the fact that in MLM there is nothing in it without the recruitment happening? That was what I asked. And I make a point about this; we would not choose to do that in TradSales, as we are not hoping for a recruit, there is no other motivating factor. And for those reading this thread who are not MLM inexperienced they might not get it, that's all.

Excellent, GC!

Skip

Originally Posted by Gold Calling And I make a point about this; we would not choose to do that in TradSales, as we are not hoping for a recruit, there is no other motivating factor. And for those reading this thread who are not MLM inexperienced they might not get it, that's all.

There are often other "motivating" factors.

Friday morning I finalized a sale for $49,800. In my industry, that's a huge sale--one that many of my peers will never experience. I've been there before, so I don't dance in the end zone. The 16 grand which I pocket on that sale is indeed a motivating factor. But the pocket of influence I created with that client opens a door that is also a moitvating factor. So, in effect, there is a similarity with sponsoring a person into an MLM venue who could have access to a pocket of influence which that industry calls downline.

However, in keeping with the spirit of the thread, I was prepared to walk away from this sale if conditions were not met to my satisfaction. In the type of selling I do, it takes guts---and you need them. I don't think it takes guts to turn down the type of sale MitchM talks about. So---yes, GC, I agree that there are big differences.

Should MLM discussions be unwelcome on this forum? I think that is for Jeff to decide---not you or I.

"Why? Could it be that it is due to the fact that in MLM there is nothing in it without the recruitment happening?" - CG

Skip/GC - you probably misread my earlier post about making money in my business and your ignorance i.e. lack of understanding of the business accounts for what I just cut and pasted from your post.

Without recruiting anyone I've made a consistent $500 - $1,500 of monthly retail profit. Granted, that's peanuts to some folks and a fortune to others, but it requires no recruiting whatsoever. It's requires a direct sale as I described with Jeff.

But likewise, I can recruit day and night and without those recruited retailing products - selling products - neither they nor I make money from their activities. They can also recruit over and over and it means nothing.

Until a sal is made, we make no money- nothing. My business is selling, recruiting, and training - along with that comes marketing and promoting, advertising and prospecting multiple business activities many people simply cannot do as I do - too many hats to wear I suppose. It's a challenging business but so should every business have some challenges, right!
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"So, in effect, there is a similarity with sponsoring a person into an MLM venue who could have access to a pocket of influence which that industry calls downline." -- Joe

There sure is that similarity.

"However, in keeping with the spirit of the thread, I was prepared to walk away from this sale if conditions were not met to my satisfaction. In the type of selling I do, it takes guts---and you need them. I don't think it takes guts to turn down the type of sale MitchM talks about. So---yes, GC, I agree that there are big differences." -- Joe

You are right, Joe - not much guts passing up a small sale like that, maybe. BUT cumulatively, being prepared to walk away from a small sale or recruitment could have huge never-to-be know ramifications. Still, I'd rather work that way anyway - it's overall the best way to work for the greatest results and the best use of time as far as I'm concerned.

"Should MLM discussions be unwelcome on this forum? I think that is for Jeff to decide---not you or I." -- Joe

Direct sales, multi level marketing, network marketing is a viable and admirable business set-up these days - Mary Kay for one is a fine company with a great history of success. There are many others. I don't believe Jeff has a negative bias toward this template or way for doing business because in sales it is a strong business model. It may even grow stronger and more universally accepted over time. Look how franchising has changed from one mom and pop owning one to corporations owing multiple franchises.

Anyone here with any curiosity into other selling paradigms might want to learn what they can from what I do.

MitchM

I have removed my own post.

I will re-post my responses to Joe and Mitch after careful consideration.