After You Ask for the Sale, Do You Shut Up?

Re: After You Ask for the Sale, Do You Shut Up? #51
I've waited till they talked on one or two occasions that I can remember... this was agonizing actually and uncomfortable for me... my client was beyond uncomfortable... and so the old adage, "the first one to talk loses" might be true... but that first move could also be one of perpetual indecision as a result.

I've since decided that I much prefer questions that will elicit a response rather than silence.

Aloha.... Tom :cool: -rattus58
Re: After You Ask for the Sale, Do You Shut Up? #52
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I've waited till they talked on one or two occasions that I can remember... this was agonizing actually and uncomfortable for me... my client was beyond uncomfortable... and so the old adage, "the first one to talk loses" might be true... but that first move could also be one of perpetual indecision as a result.

I've since decided that I much prefer questions that will elicit a response rather than silence.

Aloha.... Tom :cool:
The goal isn't to get a quick response, is it? Isn't the goal in selling to hear a positive response? If it takes a little bit of time to get the response, isn't that okay?

If your goal is to get a response right away, you could always as, "do you want to go ahead and think about this for a few days?" That is sure to elicit a response of "sure!".

But that strategy wouldn't be wise for a salesperson who wants to maximize their sales results. -Skip Anderson
Re: After You Ask for the Sale, Do You Shut Up? #53
Hi Skip... :)

I'm not sure I'm exactly understanding your comment here as it relates to my comments. My comment was "this was agonizing actually and uncomfortable for me... my client was beyond uncomfortable..."

"The goal isn't to get a quick response, is it? Isn't the goal in selling to hear a positive response? If it takes a little bit of time to get the response, isn't that okay?" Yes that is.... but you again aren't READING what I posted.

My POSITION TODAY is that YOU can wait as long as you want for a positive response from the client... my choice is to tippy toe, baby steps, or even direct value questions... and by a value question what I'm trying to elicit is a choice he makes of action (value by protection of income for him or family) or inaction (risk of no income in the event of health problems), but generally I'm staying away from go/no go questions because if it comes down to inaction as the final decision I've lost the sale, and generally my client is at continued risk.

I'm not, personally, ready to "pressure" my clients any more in that manner. I much prefer to qualify my client down to agreement that it would be better to take a plan a or a plan b. The several notable times that I remember "waiting quietly" for an answer, the end result was not what I was looking for and so therefore, for me, it is not in my repetoire of choices anymore.

Aloha... :cool: -rattus58
Re: After You Ask for the Sale, Do You Shut Up? #54
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Hi Skip... :)

I'm not sure I'm exactly understanding your comment here as it relates to my comments. My comment was "this was agonizing actually and uncomfortable for me... my client was beyond uncomfortable..."

"The goal isn't to get a quick response, is it? Isn't the goal in selling to hear a positive response? If it takes a little bit of time to get the response, isn't that okay?" Yes that is.... but you again aren't READING what I posted.

My POSITION TODAY is that YOU can wait as long as you want for a positive response from the client... my choice is to tippy toe, baby steps, or even direct value questions... and by a value question what I'm trying to elicit is a choice he makes of action (value by protection of income for him or family) or inaction (risk of no income in the event of health problems), but generally I'm staying away from go/no go questions because if it comes down to inaction as the final decision I've lost the sale, and generally my client is at continued risk

I'm not, personally, ready to "pressure" my clients any more in that manner. I much prefer to qualify my client down to agreement that it would be better to take a plan a or a plan b. The several notable times that I remember "waiting quietly" for an answer, the end result was not what I was looking for and so therefore, for me, it is not in my repertoire of choices anymore.

Aloha... :cool:
I think we are all professionals and should know what is best for the client and the sale.

MP -MPrince
Re: Shut Up! #55
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Rarely do I ask for a sale - the people I meet with have already indicated they want what I sell BUT I understand the question, Skip, and it's one of the most important considerations as you and I know.

The questions I ask along the way toward closure are questions I need answers for - spelling out the details and conditions of mutual satisfaction. I've never timed how long I've remained silent but I remain silent when I've asked a question until the other person speaks - rare exceptions only.

When I've asked: so do you want to get started? those times the question if fitting I wait as long as it takes for an answer.

MitchM
That must be nice having people already interested. However I have always done cold selling, so there needs to be a Need and Want created.

However, I have kept silent for about 20 seconds at the longest. I do not ask for the sell. To me, that gives the potential client a way out of saying, "At this point in time, I am not interested."

Instead, I tell them "When would be a good time for us to come out and install the new high speed internet service for you? Monday or Tuesday morning?"

You want to give customers option. By giving options, that will force the customer to make an educated decision. -Jumpman
Re: After You Ask for the Sale, Do You Shut Up? #56
"That must be nice having people already interested. However I have always done cold selling, so there needs to be a Need and Want created." -- Jumpman

So do I work in the cold market but unlike how you work I do not create a need and a want. I find people who have them by asking.

Mike -MitchM
Re: After You Ask for the Sale, Do You Shut Up? #57
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... that first move could also be one of perpetual indecision as a result.
Listen Rattus, if you expressed indecision how would that sound? How bout; "well, I dunno" ... ?

If I now say "what is it you do not know about" using an OPEN PROBE (open ended question) the prospect would say "Everything" indicating that you did not establish enough value in the sale, which happens. Likely you were not close enough to having them ready to buy when you asked the closing question.

And - and this is a BIG "and" - you should not have asked an open probe should you get to this point. Instead, ask a closed probe. By saying "I understand _________, this is my mistake [you better mean this], WHAT WAS IT YOU WANTED TO THINK ABOUT [do not pause] WAS IT ________________________?”

You would now have to go over every point in the sale again, one closed probe after another, trying to find out what it was that you thought was accepted which was not. This happens with low reactors, people who nod their heads but that nod means “I am listening” not “I agree, that does sound beneficial to me!”

Selling professionally is terribly misunderstood. In the case of someone being very uncomfortable it is almost certainly and indication of us having done a poor job on the way to the natural conclusion of a sale. IT IS NOT THE TECHNIQUE OF CLOSING THAT CAUSED THEM TO BE UNCOMFORTABLE BUT THAT YOU DID NOT SET UP THE CLOSE DURING THE INTERVIEW PROCESS.

In other words, if we get there, have an uncomfortable moment, it is our fault. Not for asking but for a poor selling job.

Selling is not what most people think it is. It isn’t telling and, yes, people do buy form people they like but it has been proven that A type personalities do not close at a higher ratio, subtlety works too – in fact, selling certainly involved subtle communications.


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"That must be nice having people already interested. However I have always done cold selling, so there needs to be a Need and Want created." -- Jumpman

So do I work in the cold market but unlike how you work I do not create a need and a want. I find people who have them by asking.
Let’s repeat that comment again shall we? "I find people who have them by asking."

This may surprise Mitch and certain readers ….clearly, what else can a sales person do but ask? I intend to have you see that there is no other course of action!

Of course, the best form of "asking" or probing, is done face to face. Only then can you deal with issues like misunderstandings, which are better known as objections (actually a type of objection).

For instance, aren't your vitamins more expensive on average Mitch? If so (and if you sell vitamins), to a prospect this could be a perceived drawback ... value is the way to deal with this objection clearly. And it is easier to provide value when you can show them various pieces of evidence in your sales kit.

Similarly, when you "sell" the business Mitch, as I know you recruit MLMers as well as sell your MLM products, there are times when a prospect will say (after understanding you make money off of the people you recruit and the ones they recruit and so on ...) "Isn't that a pyramid?"

This is a misunderstanding (for those who do not know, misunderstandings and perceived drawbacks are the two types of objections we run into).

You can't tell me that you don't deal with attitudes, that you do not find people who need to be redirected ... in other words, who require salesmanship; sales skills.

No matter what anyone says, it is impossible to always have lay down sales. And I reject the notion that we should sit in this forum and hear that "I don't have to do that" ... sorry and I am not picking on Mitch. There are others who also say such things and it is, to some degree, misleading to the impressionable.

This notion of "create a need and a want" ... not doing it because of "asking". What do you think professional sales people do? Badger prospects into admitting things? Or simply ask questions till they realize they have needs that can be addressed?

Two or three simple questions "uncover" needs. And this in about 95% of selling situations. It does not mean you close everybody or even close it just means that doing this, this thing we call sales, it a matter of asking question; of probing to understand.

How many times has a prospect given you an appointment and not clearly understood why? Gosh, just the week before last I had a situation where I had called two supermarkets in a small farming community, made an appointment with one, but as I looked on the website displaying both, I wrote the other one's name down. What happened?

I ended up with two appointments. I called to confirm on the day, apologizing that I would be late, would the client like me to come another day? He said yes - but he was not the guy I had appointed!

When I figured this out, I called the other guy and explained. Rebooked with him. Presto ... the point is, I got an appointment with a guy who had no idea what it was about!

Will I sell both? Not likely but there is a chance. Both have needs ... both did not know they could reduce their power consumption before I contacted them. Both will be probed to uncover extra needs or "create needs" when I get in front of them.

This is the way selling is done professionally (not the writing down of the wrong name cause I was not wearing my glasses but the probing). There is no other professional way.

One guy says I "create needs" the other guy says "I don't do that" I find people who have needs by asking. Those two people just said the same thing.

The difference? Through training you understand what this really means. Then you are better prepared to take meetings with people who may have marginal needs or "opportunities" as yet uncovered.

In selling at the highest level if you try the method of disqualification - over the phone - you will loose prospects. There is no two ways about it.

What you have to do is be sure you have a product or service that is "needed" - that there is a market for. Then you do as much qualifying as you can get away with, no more, no less. The rest is done face to face.

Take this as a misunderstanding "the first one who speaks looses!" Who said that? J. Douglas Edwards. why did "Dougie" decide to say it that way? Did he mean the customer looses by speaking? No. He meant to emphasize the point and choose these unforgettable words to hammer into sales person's brains.

There are many misunderstandings, not only the ones prospects have but those right inside our own industry. Selling is poorly understood at best. And arguments in this thread prove that clearly.

Great sales people provide one of the most awesome services known to man, they help people buy. In the normal course of helping them, we have to allow them to see why. And we can only do that by asking questions and understanding what they think. Good luck trying to sell any other way. -Gold Calling
Re: After You Ask for the Sale, Do You Shut Up? #58
You've posted an informative post everyone should read for your insights into the selling process, GoldCalling.

"You can't tell me that you don't deal with attitudes, that you do not find people who need to be redirected ... in other words, who require salesmanship; sales skills." -- GC

You are right about that. When people don't understand direct sales and multi level marketing and ask questions about how it works, is it a pyramid, etc. that's when engagement is necessary.

MitchM -MitchM
Re: After You Ask for the Sale, Do You Shut Up? #59
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Listen Rattus, if you expressed indecision how would that sound? How bout; "well, I dunno" ... ?
Listen Rattus.....
-rattus58
Re: After You Ask for the Sale, Do You Shut Up? #60
are you listening rattus? -MPrince
Re: After You Ask for the Sale, Do You Shut Up? #61
Skip

The longest silent close I've had was about 5 minutes. Well it seemed that long, in reality it was probably about 40 seconds.
I was selling a training programme, asked for the business and no-one spoke. I got the work, but I really don't like those long silences. -marky
Re: After You Ask for the Sale, Do You Shut Up? #62
Would anyone be opposed to the notion that the emotion you feel during the silence is a reflection of where you are in relation to your product/belief or experience? -PiJiL
Re: After You Ask for the Sale, Do You Shut Up? #63
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Most salespeople have heard the rule about closing a sale: after you ask a closing question, you shut up and be quiet until the prospect answers or raises an objection, or whatever. The fact is, this technique works.

If you have followed this advice...

What's the longest period of time that you've been silent after you asked for an order while you were waiting for the prospect to respond?
Yes, shut up.

In my field of business if you speak first, you lose.

However, not every sale is the same, so sometimes you need to break this rule... -salesfist
Re: After You Ask for the Sale, Do You Shut Up? #64
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Most salespeople have heard the rule about closing a sale: after you ask a closing question, you shut up and be quiet until the prospect answers or raises an objection, or whatever. The fact is, this technique works.

If you have followed this advice...

What's the longest period of time that you've been silent after you asked for an order while you were waiting for the prospect to respond?
In many of my sales closes, the time I wait for an answer has varied and I have noticed that that time is determined by what I have mentioned earlier on.

However the fun I have had over the years because of this technique has been really great, because it works and as you all know when we ask that question emotions take over both in ourselves as sales professionals and for our just about to become our next new client. How we behave after the question varies depending on who we are talking to.

For example one product I was selling required that in the early part of the presentation I would say to my prospect "My Prospect at the end of my presentation I am going to ask you to give me a yes or a no, the reason being should you go ahead with the program I will lock others in your category out for 12 months which means you will have 12 months of capturing the market before we open it up for others in your category as you will be the exclusive "client" in this area.

After the presentation I would ask the question ... "Mr Prospect would you like to be the exclusive butcher in this area?"

Now other products I have closed sales on do not have the luxury of exclusivity and yet the "he who speaks next loses" never fails.

In all honesty I have no idea how long I wait because my mindset is such that it will not be me who speaks first ... and I don't know how many times we have been interupted by a phone or someone coming in and "crashing the party" but on these occasions I still say nothing, and I guess out of habit, continue with the wait.

I guess for me sales is about having a lot of fun and I call this closing technique when I have taught my staff .... this is called the your turn my turn section. I have closed and think to myself ... I have just had my turn and then my mindset is ... Mr Prospect its your turn now!

Do I win on all occasions? No!

I must say this is a very thought provoking thread.

Thanks for starting it! -teknacool
Re: After You Ask for the Sale, Do You Shut Up? #65
The longest I've been quiet after asking for the sale is 15-20 seconds. Afther that, I usually ask them what they're thinking about so I can understand if they still have concerns and help them make the final decision. I feel if I'm quiet for too long, they are trying to talk themselves out of the sale...does anyone have any advice for me in this area? -Faizalnisar
Re: After You Ask for the Sale, Do You Shut Up? #66
We follow "SHUT UP & WALK OUT" principle after getting the order (and typically the advance as well), NOT after asking for the order. Till we get the order, we may still have to talk and complete the 'Close'.

Ganesan. -ezynes
Re: After You Ask for the Sale, Do You Shut Up? #67
The "Shut-Up and Win", as I have often called it, seems to work best for the products and services my team offers to our B2C prospects.

Finish your presentation, give your synopsis, ask for the close and SHUT YOUR MOUTH! = Two thumbs up for our B2C market.thmbp2; thmbp2;

It is almost entertaining how, in these types of sales calls, "Silence" seems to shout aloud confidence as well as a mastery of ones product and its feature/benefit attributes, even when nothing is being said. This method has put a lot of good numbers on the B2C side of the board.
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However, when my team was working in high-level B2B environments, they saw a different result from this practice. We used to consistently see our corporate prospects use these periods of silence (on our side of the table) as an opportunity to maneuver for control, which is not a good thing for a sales call.

You see, information is so easily accessed on any one of a number of devises these days. Members of our sales team often found themselves, when taking the "Silence" approach to closing, being bombarded with an overwhelming amount of questions. The silence would turn to a tag-team inquisition, all derived from information gained from the prospect's impromptu internet research, conducted right there in the conference room.

these days, we still ask for the close and wait. But included in our closes now is some form of the following statement:
"Mr./Mrs. Prospect you know that we are ready to serve you with XYZ Good/Service. With your assistance and input, we've been able to shown you how this good/service is what your organization needs and that OUR company is the best provider of this solution. Now we would like to ask you for a decision. We'll be quiet over here now while you take a few moments and go through your mental notes and decide if there is anything we have not covered adequately or any issue you you can think of that would cause you to not be able to make that decision"
In this method, we are still letting the silence happen, but WE are dictating what the prospect is supposed to be doing during that time. We maintain control even when we have relegated the process over to the client for contemplation. -rgp3man
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For me personally I would say 5 to 10 minutes, but I've coached a sales rep who remained silent for more than half an hour and got the sale without adding anything thereafer. One thing I would like to add is the importance of body language. The power of silence can fade away quickly when not accompanied by confident body language.

Wim -WimWilmsen
Re: After You Ask for the Sale, Do You Shut Up? #69
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We follow "SHUT UP & WALK OUT" principle after getting the order (and typically the advance as well), NOT after asking for the order. Till we get the order, we may still have to talk and complete the 'Close'.

Ganesan.
The difference is clear.

Part of sales lore is the idea that "when we ask a closing question, we should 'shut up'." That idea has been parroted so many times that it is too often accepted at face value. The reasoning is that if we talk, we let the prospect off the hook and sustain his/her natural tendency to procrastinate.

The fallacy is that "closing questions" close sales. The truth is that if the engagement with the prospect has been so shallow, and the proposition so weak, that a sale could falter because of the salesperson not shutting up, we aren't going to lose anything we didn't have in the first place.

Ganesan addresses something more important--lingering after the sale has been made. No good can come of it. But sometimes it can adversely effect the agreement. Indulge me with this analogy: A great painter knows when the last brush stroke has been applied. -Gary A Boye
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