Selling a ketchup popsicle to a woman wearing white gloves

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 #1
McMann and Tate
Selling a ketchup popsicle to a woman wearing white gloves

A good salesman is born that way; it is not a learned behavior. End of story. Go solve another mystery. This one is over.

Crack any sales help book and you'll find all of the traits the author says a good salesman must have. He must be an early riser, well-organized, diligent, a great communicator, well-dressed, punctual, tactician, statistician, creative, bold, a great listener, a great talker, assertive, convincing, analytical, and maybe mystical. He must be a planner, a time conservationist, and posses the ability and desire to always win. His presentation has to be polished, his words impeccable.

WRONG!

A real salesman has the innate ability to make people like him and listen to his ideas. You can't learn it in any book or sales course. You've got it or you don't. It's magnetism, plain and simple. People buy from people they like not because of a superior product, killer service, and never price.

If you really like people and enjoy the game of getting them to see your point of view, you're a natural born salesman and will do well, very well. In fact, you'll be in the top income percentage of all professions.

If you spend all of your time trying to "learn" sales techniques, you'll look forced and unnatural. Look for work that better suits your temperament. A true salesman is born, not made.

 #2
Gary Boye
Re: Selling a ketchup popsicle to a woman wearing white gloves

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Originally Posted by McMann and Tate
A good salesman is born that way; it is not a learned behavior. End of story. Go solve another mystery. This one is over.
Finally!!--someone has set me straight. I needed that. I feel reborn--free at last!

As soon as I finish writing out checks to return all the money I've made in selling these forty years, I'm packing my bags and going back to what I really wanted to do--draw cartoons for Colliers Magazine.

 #3
Doc MC
Re: Selling a ketchup popsicle to a woman wearing white gloves

I don't even know where to start... thank you for your opinion! I guess then you are not any better of a salesman now than when you first started.

 #4
Gary Boye
Re: Selling a ketchup popsicle to a woman wearing white gloves

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Originally Posted by Doc MC
I don't even know where to start... thank you for your opinion! I guess then you are not any better of a salesman now than when you first started.
I guess not, Doc.

Actually, there's a smidgen of truth in McTate's cut & paste.

There are many people that could never make it in sales. I don't know if it's the time worn concept of heredity and environment influencing aptitude--or--just an inpenetrateable paradigm

On the other hand, KNOWLEGE EXISTS. If McTate is inferring that knowlege, pertaining to skills, cannot be contained in books and/or training, or derived from experience--and transferred--, that wouldn't make any sense.

The skill sets that he mentions as representative of those contained in training and books are more stereotypical than accurate.

 #5
Calvin
Re: Selling a ketchup popsicle to a woman wearing white gloves

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Originally Posted by McMann and Tate
If you spend all of your time trying to "learn" sales techniques, you'll look forced and unnatural. Look for work that better suits your temperament. A true salesman is born, not made.
Brian is this to be taken literally?

 #6
MitchM
I Quit!

As for me, I'm just going to quit!

All this training I've been through and the school of hard knocks, the schooling and learning I still do - I know I wasn't Born To Be Selling - Gary, I can write good headlines and copy. Do you think we might team up?

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Jolly Roger
Re: Selling a ketchup popsicle to a woman wearing white gloves

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Originally Posted by McMann and Tate
If you spend all of your time trying to "learn" sales techniques, you'll look forced and unnatural. Look for work that better suits your temperament. A true salesman is born, not made.
Ok, so what's the punchline?

 #8
Gary Boye
Re: I Quit!

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Originally Posted by MitchM
As for me, I'm just going to quit!

All this training I've been through and the school of hard knocks, the schooling and learning I still do - I know I wasn't Born To Be Selling - Gary, I can write good headlines and copy. Do you think we might team up?
No--Mitch, don't do it! I've got this great idea. We'll start an advertising agency. We'll call it Boye and M. I've got a great way to get people to notice us. We'll write an article to rankle feathers and we'll post it somewhere on the web. That'll get attention. Whaddaya think!? Nobody's ever tried it before. It can't miss.

Or we'll call it M and Boye--I don't care.

 #9
KSA-Mktg
Re: Selling a ketchup popsicle to a woman wearing white gloves

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Originally Posted by Calvin
Brian is this to be taken literally?
Calvin, does this mean you know McMann and Tate? Are there really two of them? And this post is the best they can do?

I also notice he/they have no info on their profile.

Hmmmmmm.

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Calvin
Re: Selling a ketchup popsicle to a woman wearing white gloves

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Originally Posted by KSA-Mktg
Calvin, does this mean you know McMann and Tate?
No, I was just being cordial.

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Originally Posted by McMann and Tate
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